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"Fuller's London Pride" Clone

"Fuller's London Pride" Clone

Special/Best/Premium Bitter • All Grain • 19.50 L

bear2bear

My first atempt to clone the Fuller's London Pride. I researched several recipes for the Fuller's London Pride clone on the net, and adjusted them by the availability of grains. I actually used the Wyeast cask ale yeast, but the fermentation stacked on the first day. So, I added the sediments from the other ale I brewed before, that used the Wyeast ESB yeast, to start the primary fermentation. The result was a far dry beer than I expected, that totally destroyed the characteristics of the London Pride. I recommend to stick to the use of S-04 or S-05.

June 22, 2009 pm 12:22pm

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Ingredients (All Grain19.50 L)

  • 3.96 kg Maris Otter Pale

    Maris Otter Pale

    An English thoroughbred and a favored choice of malt for many brewers. Simpsons' Maris Otter has a rich and nutty flavor and despite its small, berry size has a strong husk. This malt delivers predictable brewhouse performance with modest, yet consistent extracts. Brewers can expect good runoffs with clear wort.

  • 0.18 kg Crystal Malt 60°L

    Crystal Malt 60°L

    Sweet caramel flavor, deep golden to red color. For dark amber and brown ales.

  • 0.06 kg Belgian Aromatic

    Belgian Aromatic

    Imparts a big malt aroma. Use in brown ales, Belgian dubbels and tripels.

  • 0.06 kg Honey Malt

    Honey Malt

    Nutty honey flavor. For brown ales, Belgian wheats, bocks and many other styles.

  • 18 g Target - 10.0 AA% whole; boiled 60 min

    Target

    Used for its robust bittering ability in British ales and lagers. Aroma is quite intense.

  • 18 g Northdown - 8.0 AA% whole; boiled 15 min

    Northdown

    Mellow English higher alpha-acid hop.

  • 18 g Challenger - 6.5 AA% whole; boiled 1 min

    Challenger

    Popular bittering hop used primarily in British ales and lagers. Mild to moderate aroma, but quite spicy.

  • 18 g Challenger - 6.5 AA% whole; added dry to secondary fermenter

    Challenger

    Popular bittering hop used primarily in British ales and lagers. Mild to moderate aroma, but quite spicy.

  • 1 tsp Irish Moss (15min. boil) - (omitted from calculations)

    Irish Moss (15min. boil)

  • Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04

    Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04

    A well-known, commercial English ale yeast, selected for its fast fermentation character and its ability to form a very compact sediment at the end of the fermentation, helping to improve beer clarity. This yeast is recommended for the production of a large range of ale beers and is specially well adapted to cask-conditioned ales and fermentation in cylindro-conical tanks. Sedimentation: high. Final gravity: medium. Pitching instructions: Re-hydrate the dry yeast into yeast cream in a stirred vessel prior to pitching. Sprinkle the dry yeast in 10 times its own weight of sterile water or wort at 27C ± 3C. Once the expected weight of dry yeast is reconstituted into cream by this method (this takes about 15 to 30 minutes), maintain a gentle stirring for another 30 minutes. Then pitch the resultant cream into the fermentation vessel. Alternatively, pitch dry yeast directly in the fermentation vessel providing the temperature of the wort is above 20C. Progressively sprinkle the dry yeast into the wort ensuring the yeast covers all the surface of wort available in order to avoid clumps. Leave for 30 minutes and then mix the wort e.g. using aeration.

Notes

Tasty but too dry, far from the original style, probably due to the different yeast I used. 1-step infusion mashing. Brewed on March 8, 09. OG was 1.046, FG was 1.000. Bottled on April 23, 09.

Style (BJCP)

Category: 8 - English Pale Ale

Subcategory: B - Special/Best/Premium Bitter

Range for this Style
Original Gravity: 1.047 1.040 - 1.048
Terminal Gravity: 1.010 1.008 - 1.012
Color: 11.0 SRM 5 - 16
Alcohol: 4.8% ABV 3.8% - 4.6%
Bitterness: 34.2 IBU 25 - 40

Discussion

Buzzerj

Fullers London Pride

2009-07-04 1:17pm

I was playing around with a London Pride recipe although I haven't brewed it. I don't have ready access to the Target and Northdown hops as you did. You did use the correct hops. But I was looking to use the Boddington's yeast, Wyeast 1318 London Ale III.

Buzzerj

Fullers London Pride

2009-07-04 1:17pm

I was playing around with a London Pride recipe although I haven't brewed it. I don't have ready access to the Target and Northdown hops as you did. You did use the correct hops. But I was looking to use the Boddington's yeast, Wyeast 1318 London Ale III.

bear2bear

Yeast & Hops

2009-07-04 10:16pm

Thank you for the suggestion about the yeast, Tim. Of course it is much better to use a London ale yeast, I am sure. (It is a little hard to obtain here, though. ) I will try it next time. For the hops, any substitution with those of close characteristics would be fine, but please remember that the most noticable chracteristic of this beer is the aroma and flavor from those English hops, especially from Target and Challenger. Sticking to these English hops would definitely make cloning much easier. (I do not have any big preference toward Northdown over Northern Brewer. They are really close. )

bear2bear

Trippel

2009-08-23 11:14am

Yesterday, I drunk a bottle of "Maredsous Trippel". The aroma, palate, aftertaste, everything was pretty close to this beer. The main cause is obviously its high alcohol content. (The Maredsous Trippel has an alcohol content of 10 percent. )Of course, the London Pride is not close to the style of Belgian Trippel, so this one was not good as its clone. However, please do not be discouraged. It should be good if the yeast is right. (If you guys want to brew a Trippel rather than the London Pride clone, I recommend to use a Belgian ale yeast or the safbrew s-33. )

waismana

FG

2009-09-08 12:30am

Is it mistake? 1.000 the water has The recipe must be nice by itself

bear2bear

Re: FG

2009-09-08 1:25am

The FG is mistake. It was 1.002, still very very low. It is possible that I measured in a wrong way.

bear2bear

The second batch brewed

2009-10-13 12:50pm

I brewed the second batch. The grain bill was slightly changed. The amounts of hops used were increased. Also, I changed the yeast. The ingredients were as follows. Malts: Maris Otter Pale 3900g Crystal 60L 120g Honey malt 120g (replaced by honey malt 100g biscuit malt 30g. ) Belgian Aromatic 120g Hops: Target 21g (boiled 60 min. ) Northdown 14g (boiled 15 min. ) Challenger 7g (boiled 15 min. ) Challenger 24g (boiled 0 min. ) Yeast: Danster 3767 Nottingham The beertool gave me the following stat. OG: 1.047 FG: 1.012 Color: 10.88 SRM Alcohol: 4.57% Bitterness: 36.6 Brewed on 10/13/09. Actual OG was 1.050. Dry hopping with 24g of Challenger may be done later.

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