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Honey Hop Wheat

Honey Hop Wheat

American Wheat or Rye Beer • Extract • 5 gal

Vista

Sweet wheat with a great pleasant hop aroma!

May 5, 2008 am 08:05am

4.3/5.0 4 ratings

Ingredients (Extract5 gal)

  • 6 lbs Dry Wheat; Muntons

    Dry Wheat; Muntons

    Made with a preponderance of wheat malt (55%) for the production of wheat or Weiss beers. Contains no colored malts or hops.

  • 1 lbs Honey

    Honey

    Imparts sweet and dry taste. For honey and brown ales. Also: specialty ales.

  • 1 oz Liberty - 4.0 AA% pellets; boiled 60 min

    Liberty

    Used mainly for finishing German and American style ales and lagers. Aroma is mild and pleasant.

  • 1 oz Liberty - 4.0 AA% pellets; boiled 20 min

    Liberty

    Used mainly for finishing German and American style ales and lagers. Aroma is mild and pleasant.

  • 1 oz Amarillo® - 8.5 AA% pellets; boiled 0 min

    Amarillo®

    Grown in Washington. A newer multi-use hop with a nice citrus-flower bouquet and medium-high acid content suited for bittering. Used in American Ales and IPAs.

  • Wyeast 1056 American Ale™

    Wyeast 1056 American Ale™

    Used commercially for several classic American ales. This strain ferments dry, finishes soft, smooth and dean, and is very well balanced.

Style (BJCP)

Category: 6 - Light Hybrid Beer

Subcategory: D - American Wheat or Rye Beer

Range for this Style
Original Gravity: 1.059 1.040 - 1.055
Terminal Gravity: 1.013 1.008 - 1.013
Color: 9.6 SRM 3 - 6
Alcohol: 6.1% ABV 4% - 5.5%
Bitterness: 22.4 IBU 15 - 30

Discussion

Vista

Brewed 5/3/08

2008-05-05 8:11am

brewed and thru in the primary fermentor on 5/3/08. Actually used safale 05 which is an american yeast strain very similar to 1056. pitched the dry yeast at about 75 degrees. very vigorous fermentation in the first 48 hours. i had added clover honey the last 5 min of the boil and threw the amarillo hops in at flame out and let steep for 7 min before cooling. lots of aroma coming out of the fermentor, really looking forward to this beer. wanted to use wyeast 1010 but my local brew shop didn't carry the strain. figured i'd go with a clean american strain. i'm a little worried the beer will have some alc hotness to it that bittering hops could typically balance out, time will tell.

Vista

sweet wheat!

2008-05-18 11:50am

bottled on 5/18. i got lazy and just did a single stage fermentation for 2 weeks. this has turned out great so far. little bitterness with a great citrus hop nose from the amarillo. and WOW did that honey shine through. i had tossed in the honey with 5 min left. this is the first beer where i've really noticed a sweet honey affect. a very strong wheat taste is also present through out. this was a really simple beer to make and i think i will be even happier after carbonation is done. i used clover honey for this batch, i would use orange blossom next time but this is absolutely delicious so far.

Herbaljoe

interesting!

2008-05-18 6:33pm

Very interesting... looks really tasty! I've actually been wanting to brew with honey but have been concerned that I wouldn't get much honey flavor by the time the beer was done. I'll definitely try adding it around the 5 minute remaining mark just as you did. Nice to see you went with the American hops at flameout. I bet that really brightened it up. I think going with the US-05 was a good choice over something like 3068 or one of the really estery wheat beer strains. I still have a pack of 1010 in my fridge from a few months ago I need to use. Maybe I'll try a beer similar to this! BTW... I usually just do a primary fermentation as you did on this batch. Even when dry hopping I'll just add them to the primary and let it go an extra week. I don't think secondary fermentation is really worth it unless you are aging a beer for an extended period of time. Racking to secondary always introduces the chance of contamination and oxidation, but leaving in the primary really doesn't hurt unless you have it in there for more than a month. Cheers :)

Vista

thanks!

2008-05-18 8:30pm

i will let you know how it is when it is ready to consume. but this is one beer at bottling where i was almost ready to drink it immediately, with no carbonation. and like you mr herbaljoe, i have found jamil's recipes very helpful, i tried to base the IBUs similar to his american wheat but had the strong hop addition at the end...so it probably won't be competition worthy...but the citrus from the amarillo and sweetness from honey really compliment each other. i'm very excited.

Vista

very easy drink

2008-05-31 8:53am

really quite good. it's mellowed out very much, the late hops blend nicely with the whole beer. it's a great session beer. will be making this again.

dutra2418

this will be my first

2008-06-03 6:20pm

sorry for the newbie questions but this is my first attempt at brewing and I really want to get into it. I went and bought the supplies to brew this recipe from my lhbs. They didn't have Amarillo pellets though so I drew on what little knowledge of brewing I have and decided to go with Willamette pellets. Is that a bad call to dry hop with those instead? Also, what temperature did you ferment and condition at? Also, did you start the yeast a day or so before or just pitch it dry?

Vista

welcome to brewing!

2008-06-04 12:31pm

glad to hear you're brewing this! it should make you happy. willamette is a great hop, although a different hop profile, it will give a nice floral aroma. you may not have as strong of a citrus gear to it though. amarillo is really on par with cascade, i find amarillo not to be as grapefruity as cascade but that's my opinion. you want to ferment at around 67. you really don't want to crack 70 though with this yeast, you'll get something totally different. i'd say if you were in the 65 to 69 range you'll end up with something solid. i just pitched the yeast dry. i've never had a problem with pitching dry yeast, i actually prefer them to liquid yeast...although you can get more specialized yeasts in liquid form. i think you'll enjoy this beer, it should be a good beer to start with too. one last thing, i didn't dry hop, as you mentioned you were going to do. after your 60 min of boiling is over, take the pot off the heat, and throw in your willamette. let the willamette sit for about 7 min, then quickly chill your pot. if you have an immersion chiller then fantastic, if not just make sure you pick up a couple bags of ice before hand and chill the pot in ice water in your sink. you want to add somewhere between 3.5 to 4 oz priming sugar to carbonate. happy brewing! let me know how it turns out.

dutra2418

quick response

2008-06-04 1:32pm

thanks for the quick response! a few more questions. I've read the book how to brew by palmer and the two recipies in there call for more than one packett of yeast. So that makes me wonder if those recipies are exceptions to a one packet rule, or what. Additionaly, what are your thoughts on a first time brewer doing secondary fermentation in a carboy. Is it really beneficial as far as getting rid of that little layer of yeast left over in the bottle, or would it just be something that could possibly go wrong. If the reward does outweigh the risk, what day should that be done? Thanks again! -Greg

Vista

to transfer or to not transfer...

2008-06-04 7:16pm

that is the question. you can just use one yeast packet and be fine. for the most part, if you do a good job aerating your beer when you put it in your jug you'll get a good response from your yeast. for the bigger beers you'll eventually make , like 7%, you'll want to use 2 dry yeast packs. palmer's book is great and if you follow his recommendations you'll never go wrong. that was the first thing i read before i brewed my first beer. i also learned that there are certain things you can bypass and still get a great beer. that's the thing with brewing, you can put in minimal time, be careful and knowledgable of what you're doing and make something great. or you could do a decoction mash, lose a day of your life brewing a beer, prep your yeast correctly, get a beer that will blow your mind. it's all of what you want to make of it. as for transferring. most ales you can get away with just doing a 2 week single fermentation, like this one. in another of palmer's books that he cowrote with jamil zainasheff (sp?) there is a recipe for every style of beer you could think of, this one is close to his american wheat, except i added honey and had a bigger late hop addition. jamil won like best national homebrewer of the year a couple of years back. anyway, almost all of his ale recipes are 2 week single fermentation. lagers on the other hand demand a 2 cycle fermentation. doing a 2 cycle fermentation for an ale isn't a bad thing, just gives a chance for infection...especially for us noobs :-) do a 2 week fermentation. this will be a good beer to start with. when you taste it during bottling you'll really get a strong honey taste. 2 weeks later when the bottles are carbonated you'll see how it's matured. i hope you enjoy it.

dutra2418

brewed 6/5

2008-06-06 10:51am

Brewed it yesterday and just went down to check the fermenter. Airlock is bubbling like crazy already. It smells fantastic! The only problem is I cant get it below 70° (current temp between 70° and 72°). As of 10 mins ago I wrapped a towel around it and put the fan on so hopefully it will drop a few more degrees. Also, in my excited state of transferring I forgot the stainer, so there is some hops goop and the penny I used to control the boil over in the fermenter as well. Anyone know if that will create off flavor? Other than that I think everything went smoothly although it did take a little long to cool the wort (around 45 mins) so that's the only thing I'm scared of. Will update when bottling day comes. Cheers!

Vista

no strainer? no problem

2008-06-11 8:19am

don't worry about the strainer, sounds like you're well on your way. the higher temp for fermentation may be a little off but i think it'll come out just fine.

dutra2418

bottled last night

2008-06-19 11:59am

bottled last night, took a taste and its great! No off flavors from my first time brewing and the honey was clear as day. Wish I had access to amarillo hops as opposed to willamete but it still tasted good. Added the 4oz of corn sugar dissolved in boiled water. Hope the carbonation goes! Excellent recipe i want it to carbonate now!

Vista

you'll really end up liking it...

2008-06-24 8:14am

glad to hear you like your initial tastes at bottling. it's good to hear that your first brew was a success...and it's good to hear someone brewed my recipe and had good results. when you taste it in a couple of weeks the honey flavor will have subsided but it is a great beer, has some residual sweetness left from the honey. congrats on what appears to be a successful first time home brew! cheers!

Vista

honey hop with orange blossom

2009-02-02 12:29pm

a friend brewed this, it was his first beer ever brewing. he used willamette hops instead of liberty, also orange blossom honey. at bottling 1/31/09, it was delicious.

Will

Made for my Girlfriend

2009-07-12 1:14am

Just wanted to drop by and thank you for the recipe. Really appreciated all the comments you made about your beer and it helped me choose your recipe. Beer was great, my girlfriend loved it. The sweetness of the honey fades noticeably after about a month so refrigerate early if you like it sweeter.

Vista

no prob

2009-12-23 4:38pm

just saw this last comment...glad to hear this appeased the mrs. :-)

Datahazard

I've brewed this several times

2011-04-09 3:33pm

and I'm brewing another batch today, Its extremely easy and everyone really likes it. Double the honey, you won't be sorry.

Beersnob

Lovely Beer

2011-06-22 9:59pm

My first extract brew. Lovely beer but turned out very sweet. ---Need to update this. beer just needed to age a little bit. Nicely sweet aftertaste but mellowed a lot with a few more weeks conditioning. Lovely beer. Will brew again

Datahazard

I just served this at my wedding.

2014-12-17 5:35pm

It's still awesome, and with double the honey it's like 8.5%

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