Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:32 am
BTP really should have a function to print "Inventory".
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+1. This was mentioned during beta, but nothing came of it. I think it would be a great addition.FrugalBrewer wrote:BTP really should have a function to print "Inventory".
Not to find fault with your suggestion, Frugal, but I think for anyone using propane or natural gas, which is probably most of us, it is going to be nearly impossible to set up an estimator that would be any more precise than our own experience, gained from a few brew sessions, because of continuous variability on the gas control knob and other factors influencing gas flow; on the other hand, it would probably work well for any system that has a more consistent energy input, such as electric stoves and heating elements with known kilowatt power. And if that were all there is to it, I'd think that Jeff and Lathe might be able to do something with this; i.e., 1 watt = 1 joule, and 2,250 joules converts 1gram ... (which equals about 1 cubic centimeter, but somewhat more due to expansion) ... of 100C water into steam. Although there might be some _slight_ variation in required power for water which is boiling at different temps due to altitude, humidity, and barimetric pressure ... (and I'm not so sure that there _is_ a difference because once the water is boiling we are then speaking only about the energy needed for the phase state change) ... I also think that those factors probably vary so little and also have such a minor influence in the big scheme of things that they probably aren't going to make even so much as a couple of percentage points difference. Couple that with the myriad other factors that will make a difference, too, such as:FrugalBrewer wrote:Seeing as how BTP has taken great strides to include fields for very location/brewday specifics.....
Is it possible to have a boil off estimater? ... snip
conman wrote:Brew Timer,
I know this has been around and discussed before, but,.........................
I have been looking for a brew timer to go along with this wonderful program.
BrewTimer (http://www.hoppedale.com/brewerytimer) is the only one I have used that really fits my needs so far and if something similar could be added directly into Beertools it would be fairly complete in my book.
I remember somewhere I think, that it might be included in version 2.0, well if we get there, and it works as well as the BrewTimer, fully integrated, it will be great.
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loljeff wrote:hereconman wrote:Bueller, .........Bueller............Bueller........
Thanks paintbomb! I appreciate the careful layout of your comments; and we will refer to these and other points in this thread as we implement new features. In the meantime, efficiency scaling can be done by clicking the checkbox next to the efficiency field and then changing the efficiency. It's not as comprehensive as you might like but it should get you in the ballpark.paintbomb wrote:I have used this program as a homebrewer for three years now and absolutely love it. Now I am on my way to opening my own microbrewery and would love to continue using it in production. I have tried to use the competitors software and always return to BTP.
Some features that would help in that transition.
1. More options for scaling recipes
- scaling based on efficiency. I would love to be able to change my brewhouse efficiency and have BTP scale my grist bill and hop schedule.
- scaling based on original gravity. Lets say i want to produce a beer with the same grist/ hop ratios, but want to make the beer 1% stronger or weeker. It'd be great to change the OG and have BTP change these values.
2. ability to lock water volume added. Lets say I over sparge and come out with a wort below my intended pre-boil gravity. I would like to be able to have BTP automatically increase my boil time to make up for the lower gravity wort.
3. Hop utilization factor for increased brewhouse size. It's be nice to set a factor for increased hop utilization going from a 10 gal batch to a 7 BBL batch. I dont necessarily expect there to be given values, but if I send a bottle of homebrewed IPA to a lab and compare it to the same bottle produced on a larger brewhouse, it'd be nice to be able to scale the hops using the lab numbers.
4. A calendar function like Beer Smith's would be nice. Good for keeping track of available fermenters etc.
5. I agree with others suggestions of having a batch feature where I have a base recipe and can have different sessions of brewing that beer. I currently do what most do by making a new copy of each subsequent batch, but maybe there is a better way.
6. having the ability to change the boil off rate to a flat % might be nice as I often get quotes on evaporation rates this way. This is a minor thing really.
7. Hop degradation over time would be nice. Lets say I add 100 lbs of "x" hop to my inventory in December. I brew with it for a couple months, but by July it has lost so many IBUs. A calculator for this would be nice. Even better yet if I do a new batch of a previous recipe using those hops, BTP would calculate how much more of them I should use based on degradation, perhaps only for hops 30-90 minutes in the boil. I'd imagine this would be a major pain in the !@#, but boy it'd be nice.
I think I can probably help with this too. Select the ingredient in the recipe you would like to replace and then right-click the ingredient in the DB that you want to substitute. Choose "Replace In Recipe". Hope this will suffice for now.paintbomb wrote:Could theoretically work for grains as well, where the "replace with" command would keep the gravity contribution consistent but adjust the quantity for a more or less extractable grain.
There's a workaround for this, too.paintbomb wrote: - scaling based on original gravity. Lets say i want to produce a beer with the same grist/ hop ratios, but want to make the beer 1% stronger or weeker. It'd be great to change the OG and have BTP change these values.