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Calcium Chloride values wrong in BTP

Post by JimInNJ » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:40 pm

According to Palmer, 1 gram of Calcium Chloride should add 72 ppm Ca and 127 ppm Cl. Beer Tools Pro is adding 75 ppm Ca and 67 ppm Cl.

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Welcome, JimInNJ

Post by billvelek » Wed May 02, 2007 10:08 am

Just noticed your post and that you are pretty new here so I want to welcome you to these forums. I hate that it's been five days since your post and no one has replied. I figure Jeff and Lathe (the developers of BeerToolsPro who are generally very responsive) must be very busy right now, but hopefully any correction will show up in the next upgrade.

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Post by slothrob » Wed May 02, 2007 12:49 pm

I believe Palmer is right, according to my math.
This would be correct for anhydrous CaCl2, though, not CaCl2
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Post by jeff » Wed May 02, 2007 3:05 pm

[quote="slothrob"]I believe Palmer is right, according to my math.
This would be correct for anhydrous CaCl2, though, not CaCl2
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I'm wrong

Post by slothrob » Wed May 02, 2007 3:33 pm

Sorry about that, I did the math wrong. I'm a biochemist and should know better, but we all have bad days, right? :oops:

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Re: I'm wrong

Post by jeff » Wed May 02, 2007 3:46 pm

slothrob wrote:Sorry about that, I did the math wrong. I'm a biochemist and should know better, but we all have bad days, right? :oops:
Lets not forget that the whole reason this conversation started is because I got it wrong in BTP. Yes, we all have bad days. :cry:
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Jeff, can you help some of us out here?

Post by billvelek » Thu May 03, 2007 10:14 am

[quote="slothrob"]I believe Palmer is right, according to my math.
This would be correct for anhydrous CaCl2, though, not CaCl2
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Re: Jeff, can you help most of us out here?

Post by jeff » Thu May 03, 2007 10:36 am

[quote="billvelek"]By the way, I think I've figured out that CaCl2 is calcium cloride, but what is CaCl2
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Re: Jeff, can you help some of us out here?

Post by slothrob » Thu May 03, 2007 11:17 am

[quote="billvelek"]By the way, I think I've figured out that CaCl2 is calcium cloride, but what is CaCl2
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Thanks

Post by billvelek » Thu May 03, 2007 1:51 pm

Thanks, Jeff. I've edited the table and it looks like this now: http://home.alltel.net/billvelek/btp-wa ... owser.html

However, not only do I not know the breakdown of elements (Ca, Mg, etc.) for Anhydrous Calcium Chloride, but there also does not appear to be a way for a user to enter those values in the editor, unless I'm overlooking something somewhere. Just thought I'd mention this now before I forget, and then I presume you will eventually address that whenever you get around to working in this area of the program.

Had a mishap while brewing last weekend, although I don't blame BTP. It was late, and I was tired and in a hurry, and so I forgot to double-check the volume of my kettle with a dipstick ruler when my boil was complete. The last several brews came out a little less than my carboy, which added a bit of complaceny on my part. Well, you can probably guess that after crash cooling, I siphoned into my carboy, but left the kitchen to do some things, and when I came back I had about a pint of wort spead out over the kitchen floor.

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Re: Thanks

Post by jeff » Fri May 04, 2007 9:06 pm

billvelek wrote:Well, you can probably guess that after crash cooling, I siphoned into my carboy, but left the kitchen to do some things, and when I came back I had about a pint of wort spead out over the kitchen floor.
Ugh :shock:
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Post by JimInNJ » Wed May 16, 2007 10:15 am

Thanks. However I am more confused now. I got this bottle of LD Carlson Calcium Chloride from Northern Brewer. Is it CaCl2 or CaCl2

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CaCl2

Post by slothrob » Wed May 16, 2007 1:30 pm

It appears to be CaCl2. It's somewhere in between, but probably balanced way toward anhydrous, at this point. I buy CaCl2
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