Crappy OG and inactive yeast.. :0/

What went wrong? Was this supposed to happen? Should I throw it out? What do I do now?

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Crappy OG and inactive yeast.. :0/

Postby zeno » Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:52 am

I live in NC.. Southeast, baby.. Home of the "heat index." What's that? That's when it's sooo humid, we have to have another temperature rating to account for it.

It's too hot to brew over a gas burner in my appartment garage. I can't do it on the potch cause someone will see me (illegal). I can't do it outside cause I'd have to be 500 ft away from the buildings, and I don't like the idea of carrying 5gal of wert in a 7.5gal kettel 500ft, then up 3 flights before I can cool it down.

As such, I made this last brew on the stove. First time. Everything was seemingly fine. Started with 4 gallons to steep in, and 2 gallons to sparge the grains with. I brought the sparge to boil, then set it on the back burner to cool for adding to the carboy later. Everything in the 4 gallons went well except one thing. It boiled off a crap load of wert!

I had to add an enormous amount of water. Infact, I didn't bother making a full 5 gallons. The OG was at around 1.042.

Well, I pitched the yeast (white labs irish ale) and airated. This was about 10pm last night. Currently, nothing... No growth, no nothing. There was a thin cloudy film last night (about 2cm deep) around 1am, but this morning, nothing.

So.. Is my 1.042 OG beer a lost cause? Any input on how I screwed up the stove boil?
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Starter

Postby jayhawk » Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:24 am

1042 is plenty to get fermentation going, so maybe it is your yeast. Did you make a starter for your white labs or did you just pitch a vial in to the wort?
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Rookie style, baby!

Postby zeno » Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:06 am

Shook that baby up, and threw 'er right in there! I take it I screwed that one up, hu?

Also forgot to mention, the wert was closter to 78 degrees or so.. Tap water wasn't getting cold like the hose use to. Next time I plan on using a fountain pump and ice water.. Maby the heat also had something to do with it (ie. the wert was too hot)
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BTW

Postby zeno » Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:42 pm

Just got home from work... nothing.
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Try this

Postby jayhawk » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:28 pm

Try giving the wort a stir or shake. Since you didn't have the yeast going with a starter, it will take longer for them to get moving. It is likely that the yeast are sitting on the bottom trying to "wake up".
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You didn't mess up

Postby broon » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:02 am

I always use the WL tube yeast and no starter. Same way you did it. I also pitch once it gets to under 80 deg. I think as long as it's not over 90 there's no problem. In my short time (only 15 batches) I've only had this problem once. But I think that was due to low conversion during mash. It still ended up with some alcohol and tastes good.
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Stovetop 5 gal brews

Postby broon » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:05 am

I have done all of my 5 gal all grain brews on the stove top with much success. An early year issue of Zymurgy this year had an article in the back on how to do it in two pots. Works very well. If you'd like more info on how, let me know.
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Wow this is slow..

Postby zeno » Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:22 am

Got up this morning and... YEAST! Well, at least I know it'll brew now. This has to be the slowest I've ever seen it though. Not the rapid growth rate I've seen in all my other brews. Maby shipping the yeast from cali to NC in this rancid heat damaged the yeast. One thing's for sure... it's sloooow...
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all grain?!?!

Postby zeno » Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:24 am

Never herd of doing all grain on o stove.. You get a fecent mash efficientcy?
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Mash efficiency is good

Postby broon » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:08 pm

Basically when you sparge you fill the first pot half full, completely fill the second, then finish filling the first. All additions during boil are split equally. So if 1 oz of bittering hops are required, 1/2 oz goes in each pot.

I followed a recipe exactly out of the "Beer Captured" book and had OG and FG were right at expected according to the book. They have been slightly off (higher OG, lower FG) when I use the Beer Tools calculator at 72% efficiency.
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